One of the firemen came up to me and told me that I should conceal “that pig sticker” before a police officer see’s it, because it is illegal to carry. Sep 13, 2008 #1. smoked1. You can own it, but it must stay in your home. It is all insanity. So, let’s say I wish to carry a 6″ or 7″ Smith and Wesson knife in a sheath on my belt, is that illegal? take a look at a Cold Steel 6 inch Ti lite that can be opened manually as fast as any switchblade. WA Knife Law (Bellingham Area) / Interpretation Discussion in 'Knife Laws' started by Honeywell, Aug 1, 2002. Washington D.C. Most of these knife laws are simply wrong and probably unconstitutional in many cases. Isn’t government grand! Knife History: George Washington’s Penknife. Guess I’ll quit, don’t want to intimidate anyone. Springblade knives as defined under the RCW signed into law in 2012, are currently considered to be auto knives. The juvenile Court found that the knife was a dangerous weapon and convicted Ms. Myles of possession of a dangerous weapon. Being against Nazis is a good thing. I have an SOG knife that I’m wanting to sell. (1) Every person who: (a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife; (b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or (c) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW. Is he in deep doo-doo if some punks come along and try to accost or rob him and he pulls his sword out to poke some holes in the punks? Wow that is vague and painted with grey area. Hey Nutty Professor! I haven’t seen a length limit smaller than 3″ in the three counties around Seattle. You can sell anything privately, SOGs main headquarters is located in WA. You kind of just defeated yourself with your circular saw analogy. ", http://monderno.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/dynamis-blade-01.jpg, It is legal to own a dirk, dagger, or other stabbing knife, It is legal to own a disguised knife, such as a lipstick or belt buckle, It is illegal to conceal carry any dangerous weapon, It is illegal to open or conceal carry any weapon into a Courtroom, State v. Smith, 93 P.3d 877 (2003 Wash. I’m a widow and need to be able to take care of myself. If you live in one of the 50 states, the federal law would only apply to you if you are traveling from one state to another or if you are entering federal property, such as a military base. Does anyone know if it is legal to conceal a fixed blade push knife? If any person is convicted of a violation of subsection (1) of this section, the person shall lose his or her concealed pistol license, if any. Chapter 9.41 RCW: Firearms and dangerous weapons; RCW 9.41.110: Firearms dealers license; RCW 9.41.070: Concealed pistol license; WAC 308-500-010: Semiautomatic assault rifle fee the 2nd amendment has never been interpreted by the courts to guarantee an individual or private right to organize a militia, and in fact it seems to encourage legal regulation of militias. (but that depends on the interpretation of the judge. Although I find this same problem, I don’t know what “Alarm” would entail or “concealment” because I might have it in a sheath or holster of some sort (holster referencing sheaths that resemble a gun holster, not a literal holster). Balisongs/butterfly knives are legal. Conclusion on Washington State Knife Laws. I am moving to Washington state in a few weeks. It was a strange boy back then who did not have a pocket knife, but now they kick kids out of school for a simple pocket knife. Jeeze louise. outside of official state militias and a few other exceptions, no organized body is allowed to conduct itself as a military company or organize or parade in public with firearms (RCW 38.40.120). I own a Benchmade Infidel with about a 3″ blade that snaps open when I push the slide forward, and snaps closed when I push the slide backwards. Last week, on January 25, Knife Rights’ Director of Legislative Affairs gave testimony at the state capitol in Olympia, Washington, in support of two similar pro-knife bills. Does Washington State have a restriction as to to length of a folding pocket knife blade? A knife has very many uses, many of which have nothing to do with defense. There is no reason why this same irrational thought process couldn’t be used against knives. So..what is the True conclusion to Washington State? So if you have a switchblade with a sick skin and dull it, is it still illegal? The local scout troop wasn’t worth much at cub level, all the awkwardness with none of the outdoor adventure. The Attorney General is required by law to publish a list of states with which Washington has reciprocity. Current state law permits assisted openers, since July 2012. You’re 100% sure of this? They can stab only. They are not required by law to take their medication. This is just a comment that shows anger and bias. That doesn’t mean you won’t run afoul of idiotic municipal laws that conflict with state law. We do not need silly push button knife laws and a host of related hysteria prohibitions that do nothing more than reducing our individual rights even further. The only exception is people working in the military, law enforcement agencies, emergency medical services, and fire departments. I hate this. RCW 9.41.250 - Spring Blade Knife Definition & other state laws on knives. The point is that there are laws covering the possession and transfer of both knives and firearms, and it’s wrong to think that firearms are not regulated in a manner very similar (including nonsensical and illogical laws) to knives. These stiletto knives that looked so impressive in the movies were never effective as real weapons. I always length was the major difference, but according to the article, size isn’t even mentioned. However, my own sins disgust me and I do not celebrate them, but instead, I fall on my face daily (yes, literally) before God and ask for His forgiveness and grace which He freely gives to those who ask. Additionally, since the passage of I-594, private sales of legal firearms between legal owners requires a background check. I never understood the logic. While you could legally walk around with a .50 Desert Eagle openly carried on your belt without any permit, if you are carrying a 4″ paring knife, you would be arrested. The knife possession law might be little less stressing but when you are caught with a knife concealment issue, this would be problematic. The idea that that some weapons are “bad” because certain types of “bad” people use them (like 1930s gangsters used Tommy guns), and that their possession and use can be prevented by laws (to which only the law-abiding adhere), is a sad one that goes back a long time. I sometimes make custom weapons and armor. My question: What if a person in Washington State, seeing my knife legally open carried, and has not taken their prescription Prozac medication and feels “alarmed” ? Each agency will update its pages with current information. Schools, public or private, no exemptions made for length or type of knife. Also see court case Seattle v. Montana 1996. Federal knife law only applies those traveling from one to state to another, entering federal property (e.g. I’m not seeing anything in a quick glance at state law, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t miss something. Since then 594 and 1639 (93?) And shortly no freedom of any kind, except what the state monitors dictate to one and all. It is legal to own dirks, daggers, bowie knives, stilettos, throwing stars and disguised knives, notes KnifeUp, the Knife News Magazine. Alaska’s Knife Rights Act, which enacts sweeping reform of Alaska’s knife laws. But you can still buy them. That really makes me laugh. If that freedom is taken away from me (as I feel it will be in the next 30 years or so), I will continue to practice that God-given freedom and mandate in spite of the potentially horrific consequences of doing so! Around that time laws had recently been added to require a certain age for pellet guns, which I was over and had cash in hand. A knife on your hip is perfectly fine. Can I legally carry this with me in my pocket in public? I was bored one day and actually read the RCW on this (keep in mind I’m not lawyer, I wasn’t just bored) and what i got from it was pretty much open carry is always ok unless someone is “threatened” by it (intentional or not so be careful) and concealed carry is ok as long as it’s not a fixed blade or assisted opening (not including thumb studs) and Washington state itself has no blade length limit but some cities do so look up where u live also. You have a Concealed Pistol License, as stated on the license itself. Makes me a criminal in Seattle. Nate, it is not illegal to conceal a knife. We need to be allowed to carry larger knives to protect ourselves from them! They did, of course, call to inform the prison admins of what they’d be doing in advance. So would they be illegal to carry??? One question though, does having a concealed weapon permit cover concealed legal knives in WA State? Laws and rules: Firearms Current laws and rules. If you don’t have a concealed carry you are subject to the whims and preconceived notions of whatever officer of the law you happen to run into. There is an outdoors activity exemption in Washington Law. Go live in Canada! In addition, under federal law, the following cannot carry a gun - see here. I think it is a similar case but it could also be “reasonable alarm” which might mean you would have to be a minority or have a tattoo or something (only half kidding). What about a conceal carry a fixed karambit? . Reading Time: 5 minutes Maryland Knife Laws Maryland’s knife laws have been under scrutiny lately. Alabama has some of the best knife laws in the U.S., including a nifty switchblade law. And when it comes to flying, no knives except plastic or round bladed butter knives are allowed, according to TSA regulations . The city that I live in, has a rather restrictive law that deems anything 3 inches or larger, as illegal. Get a nice folder (under 3.5″, also a city ordinance). Two state supreme court challenges have failed to loosen this prohibition. I refer to it as a cutting tool. There are laws concerning the types of firearms that can be legally purchased and owned (for instance, there is no free commerce in NFA Class III weapons – such trade is tightly regulated) and “anyone” cannot “get a gun” legally; felons and others are considered “prohibited persons” who are not allowed to possess firearms. All conceal carry is illegal. The ability to open a blade by spinning would seem to apply to balisong and butterfly knives, yet I see them all the time at gun/knife shows and shops. I can’t find it. It also enacts knife law preemption repealing all local knife laws as well as preventing new ones from being enacted. (Like you can conceal that sucker…) There may be any number of other local laws that bite you in the a$$. Soo…I can put my 16in ka-bar on my belt and and walk around town without getting hasseled by cops? Conceal carry and display laws do not apply to those who are in their own homes, at their fixed place of business, or defending themselves against a presently threatened use of unlawful force. This includes pocket knifes, fixed blades, and spring assisted. Or your shirt comes untucked and you don’t realize.. or an idiot says something idiotic to you, suddenly the rules change. Nevertheless, they are laws and cannot be broken until the universal populace shows that these are not that dangerous, as they seem to be. Would this still be the case, if during the summer you had a shirt that was not tucked in, covering the belt sheath? There are also knives that are designed in such a way that a catch catches on the edge of your pocket and withdrawals the blade as it comes out of the pocket. Should I only carry a gun in WA? In 2017, Texas lawmakers repealed a ban on carrying some knives, including the Bowie knife. It will continue unless every concerned citizen becomes an active citizen. In spite of the results of many studies showing that those who wish to harm another person (gang members, enraged citizens or serial killers) are the ones that will obtain a weapon illegally and use it no matter the laws, and law-abiding citizens who would not harm anyone, are forced to give up their knives/guns, the laws still continue to harm good people, and have no effect on bad people. It is all silly. I have used this stiletto for everything from apple eating to filleting fish and as my EDC knife. The state then appealed to the Supreme Court of Washington. Research, research, research! Local municipalities cannot make knife laws, only the State can. You can also keep the weapon locked in your car if you have a legitimate reason to be at the school and not a student. They are fighting to get stupid knife laws repealed. (3) Subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to or affect the following: (a) Any act committed by a person while in his or her place of abode or fixed place of business; (b) Any person who by virtue of his or her office or public employment is vested by law with a duty to preserve public safety, maintain public order, or to make arrests for offenses, while in the performance of such duty; (c) Any person acting for the purpose of protecting himself or herself against the use of presently threatened unlawful force by another, or for the purpose of protecting another against the use of such unlawful force by a third person; (d) Any person making or assisting in making a lawful arrest for the commission of a felony; or. what is a Schraded knife blade Tardfish? I think so but I can’t be sure. Led by the efforts of 2012 Knife Rights Freedom’s Point Award winner Mike Vellekamp of V Nives, a bipartisan “Spring Blade” Ban Repeal bill, SB 5782, has been introduced by Washington State Senator Hans Zeiger.It would repeal the ban on sales and civilian possession of “spring blade” knives, as well as specifically exclude them from the definition of “dangerous weapon.” that your backyard does not qualify as “in your home”. Hahaha! I read the actual law and it's a bit confusing. Convincing liberals to do the right thing is much, much easier. What is illegal is to conceal carry a dirk, dagger, or any dangerous weapon. What About pocket knives? Depends on city and county mostly. They have gone to Hell with a joke. It held that the word applied to the conduct of carrying a concealed weapon, which, when concealed was necessarily ‘secret’ and not to the intent. I’ve seen karambits that fold and that are fixed. A handful of states have introduced legislation recently to repeal knife laws that ban some types of knives, a trend that has been taking place around the country in recent years. The world has changed! Just possessing a knife like a balisong or a throwing knife would cause some alarm to people who aren’t accustomed to it or find carrying weapons wrong and could easily lead to an arrest whether or not any intent whatsoever was shown. Washington State Knife Laws 2019. I think this answers your question (from above): It is legal to own a disguised knife, such as a lipstick or belt buckle I suppose that as act in the fashion of a “butterfly knife” or similar and a spring doesn’t release the blade in someway, like a switch blade, a sword cane would be alright. The blade opens on a single pivot which can easily snap off. The laws for knives out here basically state if you carry anything (concealed carry gun aside), someone could have you arrested because they’re not a fan of you holding. The statute does exempt those in their “abode” or fixed place of business, and it also exempts those in the act of protecting themselves against an unlawful use of force. “Washington DC gun laws now operate on a “Shall Issue” policy after a ruling by the US Court of Appeals, the decision is FINAL! Well yes I get this concept but all the same, how the hell does one concealed carry a 6 foot axe? As a liberal martial artist in the suburbs, My daughter and I & family friends regularly train in the back yard with no problems. Your email address will not be published. You’d better remember to take it off or you could get into a lot of trouble. are they legal to purchase / posses/ sell? Schools: Knives and other dangerous weapons prohibited on school grounds. Can you tell me the brands and names of the assisted open knives? In 1994, in State v. Spencer, the Supreme Court of Washington held that there must be a sufficient basis for the alarm, such that a reasonable person would be alarmed. I hear you man. Please help the next generation learn how to fend for themselves and help others at a younger age than I did! All 50 states have their own knife law, and many of the local jurisdictions within a state will oftentimes have their own, more regulated knife laws as well. The only difference is that you seem to think that other peoples freedoms should be infringed upon as they aren’t what you are interested in. We should be concerned at every level of government. The Attorney General’s Office periodically reviews the laws of other states to determine whether those laws meet the requirements for Washington to reciprocally recognize a concealed pistol license or permit issued by those states. a military base), or live in Washington DC. Look in the Washington Administrative Code (WAC) for the specifics. You can read all about this sorry state of affairs in RCW 9.41.250: (a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife; (b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or. How about some old geezer in a park who has a sword built into his walking cane. The number of movements required to open the knife is irrelevant to the statute. LOL. Many cities have a length limit. As long as it isnt a switchblade youre fine …I have even seen knives for sale on Craigslist in the collectable section. The Chesapeake State is not only in close proximity to the Washington, D.C., but it is the home to one of the most violent cities in America, Baltimore, which reported 98.6 violent crimes per 10,000 residents in 2018. He got himself a super nice knife. That is my soap box for today. This article puts all of the laws together in an easy to understand way, so that anyone can figure out what is legal and what is not when it comes to owning and carrying knives in the state of Washington. According to our WA State Constitution SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. In the day and age fear we will cause fear if we pick our nose or our hinni, we have no wiggle room left. No person who is serving in a position that is basically clerical or secretarial in nature shall be considered a firefighter or rescue member. They do.). Is that concealed carry? If you live within the city limits of a city, you will need to check the local ordinances online, to be sure. In Seattle, a custodial parent or guardian may provide you a knife before you turn 18–just ask them to buy it for you. Wouldn’t the US Constitution on Militias override this? Guess I’ll toss a quick political comment in here, too. RCW 9.95.040 - Defines what "deadly weapon" means for felons. That about sums it up. Washington is wishy-washy when it comes to carrying knives, and I would be very cautious of taking any chances when carrying anything openly. E pluribus unum, my friends. I would be surprised if any retailer sold to a minor just out of caution (and liability insurance premiums). I leave now more confused than EVER!! ", "KnifeUp's series of knife reviews was really helpful. The court shall send notice of the revocation to the department of licensing, and the city, town, or county which issued the license. Not sure why that is, but I’m just the messenger! The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men. In the state of Washington, it’s legal to own dirks, daggers and other stabbing knives, Bowies, stilettos, disguised knives and throwing stars. Washington states laws could be interpreted to make just about any knife illegal. Washington Knife Laws. The 1950’s movies with Brando, motorcycles, black leather jackets, James Dean, ” Rebel without a Cause”, juvenile delincquancy, early TV productions, etc convinced America that switchblade wielding thugs were terrorizing our schools and cities. Who the hell came up with these laws. I don’t see anything on this thread regarding a cane sword. The constitution has been null and void for at least 100 years. KnifeUp.com is a production of 3hree 6ixteen Net Assets, 3 Ways to Actually Sleep When Camping in a Hammock, Camping With Diabetes : A Beginner’s Guide, Best Hunting Knives : Folding and Fixed Blade, Buying Guides, Knife Life, Knives, Our Favorite Knives, "I've been looking for knife law guides for a while and your articles are amazing. Not disagreeing in the slightest just saying tone it back a little. Is it legal to open carry a bowie knife and close carry. I have been with them numerous times as we were harassed by the cops, but no one ever mentioned the knives that were in plain sight, although they did scrutinize our concealed carry gun permits. Or sue the state! Knife owners are urged to join Knife Rights, and join the fight against really stupid, obsolete, and irrelevant knife laws. What about karambit’s? When something threatens my rights, KnifeUp is the first to inform me. Proceed with extreme care. Many conservatives think being cruel means they’re tough. You need to pay close attention to the exact wording of the law and always err on the side of caution if you want to avoid trouble in the state. If people can see the sheath it is not concealed. Is the length legal. We must take the time to bring correct outdated, wrong, and unfair laws and enforcement abuses through our democratic process. When the legislature fails to define a term, the Court will generally use the plain English meaning of the word, which is the meaning giving by Webster’s dictionary. State v. Owens, 324 P.3d 757 (2014). Various models were specified for police, fire, medical, military and so forth. I own one myself, and actually use it fairly often at work. A butterfly knife opens with a centrifugal movement, so it is _clearly_ with the ambit of unlawful carry or possession by Revised Code of Washington § 9.41.250. A pocket knife is one of the most useful tools anyone can carry . Restrictions on Carry: It is sharp on both sides. Any LEO in the area will likely be country boys and girls, and dismiss normal behavior for the circumstances. I am not clear if Washington allows the carry of a simple pocket knife. Balisong knives are illegal in just about every place is my understanding. I know Seattle has a specific ordinance requiring you to be 18. Does anyone know if a “Fixed Blade” is considered a “Dirk” or “Dagger”? The blade is 3 7/16 inches long. From this section we see that it is also a crime to “furtively carry with intent to conceal” any dagger or dirk, or any other dangerous weapon, included in which common knives of all kinds must surely be since they can all, nearly without exception, cause lethal wounds. Is it legal to have a bayonet on a rifle? *However* cops will often act on complaints about that behavior and might charge you. I am awaiting a background check for the purchase of a Glock, so I can conceal carry that in places like Seattle where a reasonable knife carry is not legally possible. It’s legal to carry most any handgun concealed, but most knives can’t be carried concealed? They’re both wrong. I might accidentally intimidate a liberal commie and get into trouble if I use a knife. What are you gonna do ban those? or, or, or. Hi, I can’t find the answer anywhere to the question I’m about to ask. The fact that could be easily and quickly opened suggested it was a weapon by design. Debate, compromise, think hard about what skills give children the most value, and keep pushing everyone else in your community to really think about it as well! In 1983, the Washington Court of Appeals, in State v. Haley, found that a deck attached to the house and accessible from several rooms of the home, was a part of the home, and exempt from the display statute. You see, I’m not all about “freedom shouldn’t be infringed upon”. It be legal because he isn’t carrying it in a harmful way. You can own it, but don’t get caught carrying it outside your home, you would be asking for trouble if stopped. It’s pretty easy to check the law in your city or county. Before you ask, assisted opening knives are explicitly allowed by language that is also found in federal mandates on the subject, so you should have no issues with mere ownership, though carrying it is another clam entirely. 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